Convos 1/20/05

[Kyle]

taylorserveshard: Hey
Kdadams76: hey dude
Kdadams76: what's up
taylorserveshard: some .... interesting news
Kdadams76: lucas was filling me in a little bit
taylorserveshard: there's the core six actives in this tribe apparently
Kdadams76: huh?
taylorserveshard: You-Me- Ryan- Rami- Luke- Steve
taylorserveshard: the "actives"
Kdadams76: ook ok gotcha
taylorserveshard: and their plan is to vote the two inactives out first
Kdadams76: ok
taylorserveshard: problem is once they are gone
taylorserveshard: we are the next targets
Kdadams76: we as in who??
taylorserveshard: You and Me
Kdadams76: excuse me? what have we done to anyone?
taylorserveshard: nothing
taylorserveshard: it's just we aren't in the " top four" alliance
taylorserveshard: there will probably be some type of switch by then
taylorserveshard: however, if we don't act soon... we have no one to work with
taylorserveshard: I'm sure luke will vote with us
taylorserveshard: but that just forces a tie
taylorserveshard: so we need to be careful
Kdadams76: so who's this top four business?
taylorserveshard: don't do anything yet
taylorserveshard: Luke- Big Steve- Ryan- Rami
Kdadams76: interesting
Kdadams76: so that's the 4 that's targeting us?
taylorserveshard: they aren't targeting us per say
taylorserveshard: they are trageting the inactives
Kdadams76: then us
taylorserveshard: but after that, then they aren't voting themselves off
Kdadams76: do you think lucas is really with us?
taylorserveshard: I think so
taylorserveshard: if he's not I'm the next gone
Kdadams76: not if i have anything to do with it, you won't
taylorserveshard: I think he is
taylorserveshard: he's given up to much info
taylorserveshard: bbl

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: sup?
LucasHorowitz: Tony got a very interesting PM
Kdadams76: from?
LucasHorowitz: Ryan.
Kdadams76: oh really?
LucasHorowitz: apparently he wants him in alliance with him, Rami, Big Steve, and I
Kdadams76: you have another alliance?
LucasHorowitz: yes...I thought I told you?
Kdadams76: like a for real alliance?
LucasHorowitz: not in my mind
Kdadams76: :-$
LucasHorowitz: I don't trust Rami or Ryan AT ALL
LucasHorowitz: I don't tell them squat unless I have to
LucasHorowitz: you and Taylor are my alliance
Kdadams76: *shifts uncomfortably on feet
LucasHorowitz: why?
Kdadams76: dramatic effect for the episodes
Kdadams76: LOL
LucasHorowitz: I tell you this because I am sure you would be annoyed to find out that you weren't in his plans
LucasHorowitz: (just a smidge at least)
Kdadams76: in ryan's plans?
LucasHorowitz: yes
Kdadams76: ah i don't care....just as long as i have a 4-way block
LucasHorowitz: well I told Taylor and he thinks we should vote Ryan out if the oppurtunity arises--I don't care if he goes or if we stick to plan and do Lil Steve
LucasHorowitz: but thats what is going on since yesterday
Kdadams76: hmmm
Kdadams76: why do i feel so out of the loop???
LucasHorowitz: do people ever talk to you besides me?? lol
Kdadams76: i talk to ryan and rami and big steve a lot, but i never hear stuff like this
LucasHorowitz: well this would seem why
Kdadams76: this game gets so tiring
Kdadams76: sigh
LucasHorowitz: don't you Osten out
LucasHorowitz: I'll hurt you
Kdadams76: oh please.....i don't quit nothing
Kdadams76: never
LucasHorowitz: good
Kdadams76: i don't even know the meaning
Kdadams76: the only reason i almost quit the other game is cause if i didn't it mean that someone else might get voted out for my bad
LucasHorowitz: I have no doubt you're in this for the long haul
Kdadams76: if we stick together we all can be
LucasHorowitz: Ryan's trying to pull Taylor in to or something
LucasHorowitz: (chatting with taylor now)
Kdadams76: so what's the latest?
LucasHorowitz: hard to say what Ryan is planning
LucasHorowitz: dunno if he's trying to hold on to the actives or what
Kdadams76: actives or inactives?
LucasHorowitz: well Tony I would say is inactive...so to pull him in....would be one thing
LucasHorowitz: but to taylor he was talking about a core six of actives sticking together
LucasHorowitz: so who knows what he's planning
Kdadams76: 6 alliance is too big
Kdadams76: too much room for shifting
LucasHorowitz: he indicated to taylor he saw me/big steve/rami and himself as the key four of the six actives
LucasHorowitz: which is stupid IMO
Kdadams76: interesting
LucasHorowitz: to me thats incentive for you and taylor to tryand swing something
LucasHorowitz: no idea why he would say that
Kdadams76: wow i had no idea all this was going on
Kdadams76: you know....i was wondering why my name was never mentioned in the challenge story
LucasHorowitz: talk to taylor!!
Kdadams76: until I added it
LucasHorowitz: you're in the middle
Kdadams76: lol
LucasHorowitz: enjoy it
Kdadams76: LOL
LucasHorowitz: ok, I have to watch the Apprentice...back in 90 minutes
Kdadams76: ok..i might be off but will be back online later tonight

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: hey
taylorserveshard: hi
Kdadams76: i think we might be in a situation
Kdadams76: lol
taylorserveshard: what happened?
Kdadams76: nothing happened...really....yet
Kdadams76: it just seems that you and I are the odd men out
Kdadams76: the swing votes if you will
taylorserveshard: I agree
taylorserveshard: but we've always been
taylorserveshard: we will probably switch after tc4 anyway
taylorserveshard: so
Kdadams76: hang on...
Kdadams76: phone
Kdadams76: we might divide into 3 tribes after this tc
taylorserveshard: true
Kdadams76: ok just how much do you trust lucas?
taylorserveshard: I trust him
Kdadams76: fully completely?
taylorserveshard: can you ever trust someone 100%
Kdadams76: well i'm choosing to trust you 100%
Kdadams76: and i'm hoping you can trust me
taylorserveshard: I can
taylorserveshard: but you know what I mean
Kdadams76: yeah i do
Kdadams76: Lucas had something early that made me kind of wonder but looking back through our chat, I might have misread it the first time around
taylorserveshard: what did he say
Kdadams76: i'm reading the chat right now and I think i read your name instead of Tony....so that just took the doubt away
Kdadams76: so i guess that's a big nevermind on the Lucas doubts....LOL

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: hi friend!
JenneUCSC: hola amigo!
Kdadams76: how are you?? it's been forever since we talked!
JenneUCSC: not really!
Kdadams76: seems like!
JenneUCSC: your addicted already eh?
Kdadams76: just a moment away seems like a lifetime
Kdadams76: ;-)
JenneUCSC: you are so romantical
Kdadams76: awwww
Kdadams76: shucks
Kdadams76: lol
JenneUCSC: do you have a gf?
Kdadams76: kinda sort of
JenneUCSC: oh that kind
JenneUCSC: ;-)
Kdadams76: lol...we just are both so independent
Kdadams76: we hang out all the time but we just never make it official
JenneUCSC: well i think its great you guys can be independant like that. i hate clingy
JenneUCSC: and she is a lucky girl!
JenneUCSC:
Kdadams76: awww
Kdadams76: girl we need to hang out!
Kdadams76: you wanna see a pic of me and....whatever we shall call her?
Kdadams76: lol
JenneUCSC: he he
JenneUCSC: damn boooy! she's a hotty
Kdadams76: i think so too
Kdadams76: lol
Kdadams76: i don't like that pic of me!
Kdadams76: i don't have a stache anymore
JenneUCSC: ever the studly man
Kdadams76: LOL
Kdadams76: that's seldom used around my name!
JenneUCSC: i doubt that
Kdadams76: that's me and my roomie (best friend)
JenneUCSC: ooh that was my guess!
JenneUCSC: i love being right
JenneUCSC: he's cute too
JenneUCSC: and you have a fabulous smile. great teeth! smile/teeth are biggies for me
Kdadams76: i'm a teeth person myself
Kdadams76: and thank you on the smile compliment
Kdadams76: yeah my room mate thinks he's God's gift to the world
JenneUCSC: i wouldnt go that far. he's cute. but you are sexier
Kdadams76: awww...i'll have to tell him that
JenneUCSC: gonna get me in trouble !
Kdadams76: lol
Kdadams76: he's not being so nice to me right now
JenneUCSC: ok then fire away!
Kdadams76: haha
JenneUCSC: the pic on the website is me, its lil but its me
Kdadams76: he's a lot more built than i am
JenneUCSC: in a wig though for halloween
Kdadams76: so what color is your hair?
JenneUCSC: brown
JenneUCSC: gleams reddish in the sun though
Kdadams76: very cool
Kdadams76: that was my real hair
Kdadams76: who is going tonight?
JenneUCSC: stephanie i believe. but you never know
Kdadams76: wow...not who i would've guessed
JenneUCSC: someone told me that she was playing you
JenneUCSC: that you thought she liked you when she really didnt
Kdadams76: playing me?
JenneUCSC: or something
JenneUCSC: but i never believe the propaganda i hear
JenneUCSC: but i did hear that
Kdadams76: i thought she liked me...but i didn't know we were anywhere near playing the game together yet
JenneUCSC: who did you think was going?
Kdadams76: i just thought maybe one of the less actives
JenneUCSC: someone told me that steph was targeting me
Kdadams76: hmmm
JenneUCSC: again, i dont know how true that was
Kdadams76: i have no idea about the girls' side
JenneUCSC: the person that told me that, told me you told them that
JenneUCSC: so yah i guess there are some lies floating around then
Kdadams76: yeah i would think so....I've talked absolutely NO strategy with any of the girls
Kdadams76: who told you that?
JenneUCSC: i dont want to get anyone in trouble
JenneUCSC: :-(
Kdadams76: was it a guy?
JenneUCSC: no
Kdadams76: that upsets me just a little bit
JenneUCSC: well its why i checked with you. i didnt buy it
Kdadams76: well who was it...i won't get her in trouble
JenneUCSC: i really dont want to say. im trying not to cause tension. but i wanted to know if i could trust her not
JenneUCSC: after the mitch thing, i just dont want to cause more drama
Kdadams76: ok
JenneUCSC: i just think the person was trying to get steph out
Kdadams76: i respect that
JenneUCSC: and used u as the scapegoat cause you are safe on the other tribe
Kdadams76: hmmm
JenneUCSC: cause the propaganda machine was working to get her out
JenneUCSC: this i am sure of
JenneUCSC: i just not sure where it originated from
Kdadams76: this game is so tiring
JenneUCSC: word
Kdadams76: hang on
JenneUCSC: *hanging*
Kdadams76: a friend of mine came over
JenneUCSC: need to go?
Kdadams76: will you be online later??
JenneUCSC: who knows
JenneUCSC: depends
Kdadams76: well i'll check back in....i need to go for a bit
JenneUCSC: ok have fun madear
Kdadams76: it was awesome talking to you as always!
JenneUCSC: :-)
JenneUCSC: oh yes. a treat!
JenneUCSC: mutual adoration always is though
JenneUCSC: ;-)
Kdadams76: ;-)

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: hey rami
purpleangel0710: hey kyle whats up
Kdadams76: nothing, what's up with you?
purpleangel0710: not much just chilling you see that steph got voted off
Kdadams76: yeah i just saw that
Kdadams76: i heard that she had said some mean things about me
purpleangel0710: really?
Kdadams76: yeah...that she had said something to the effect that she had gotten me to like her but she doesn't like me at all
purpleangel0710: thats messed up, so has lucas talked to you about who he wants to get rid of next?
Kdadams76: all he's told me is who everyone else wants to get rid of
purpleangel0710: little steve and tony?
Kdadams76: he keeps saying the inactives...i don't know who that includes anymore
purpleangel0710: those are the two he mentioned to me
Kdadams76: i don't know...hopefully we won't have to worry about it
Kdadams76: you what i think?
Kdadams76: i think we're gonna be divided into 3 tribes after this for somereason
purpleangel0710: that would be odd why do you think that?
Kdadams76: cause it's never happened before and it makes sense at 15 that that might happen
purpleangel0710: yeah true 3 tribes of 5
purpleangel0710: just as long as our block is on the same trib
Kdadams76: i don't know...just a hungh
Kdadams76: hunch
Kdadams76: yeah
purpleangel0710: yeah sounds like it could work never know though this game is full of twists
Kdadams76: i know..it keeps me nervous
purpleangel0710: yeah thats what makes this game so great though
Kdadams76: yeah....but for people like me, it's not healthy
Kdadams76: LOL
purpleangel0710: lol i know what you mean
purpleangel0710: but ive got to go get some sleep ill see you at the challenge tomorrow
Kdadams76: alright man...get some rest so we can kick butt again
purpleangel0710: oh yeah :-)

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: are you hiding??
JenneUCSC: :-)
JenneUCSC: guilty!
Kdadams76: :-(
JenneUCSC: im sposed to be paying attention to my man
JenneUCSC: hes getting mad at me for being on here
Kdadams76: uh oh!
Kdadams76: better go give him some lovin!
JenneUCSC: i wasnt here. but then i started to say something lil to lucas. and then got roped into a full blown convo
JenneUCSC: lol
Kdadams76: LOL
Kdadams76: hey now that Stephanie is gone, can I know if she was the one that said i was saying stuff?
JenneUCSC: lol
JenneUCSC: :-)
Kdadams76: did you vote for her?
JenneUCSC: oh yah
Kdadams76: LOL
Kdadams76: i can't beleive she thought she was playing me
Kdadams76: lol
JenneUCSC: she was playing this dumb act
JenneUCSC: it was sad
Kdadams76: well she didn't play very well
JenneUCSC: want to hear my voting comment?
Kdadams76: sure
JenneUCSC: My vote is for Stephanie. The proganda machine was working overdrive to get you out this time Steph. Not that I necessarily buy into all the stories I've been told but they are at least more believable than the act you have been trying to pull in this game. I have no respect for someone acting dumber than they really are. There is nothing more annoying than girls who think they can get what they want by playing dumb. I hope you know who Matt Damon is now.
Kdadams76: LOLOLOL
Kdadams76: i really did laugh out loud on that one
JenneUCSC: *bows* i really felt that one
Kdadams76: i didn't know she played dumb
JenneUCSC: she did with me
Kdadams76: she just played really virtuous christian woman to me
JenneUCSC: i didnt even know she was christian
Kdadams76: yep
JenneUCSC: she must have had a different character with each of us
Kdadams76: sybil
JenneUCSC: oh well . over and done with
Kdadams76: old news
Kdadams76: now onto the next fish to fry
JenneUCSC: he he. whose up on teh boys side?
Kdadams76: i really don't know....there are so many names tossed about!
JenneUCSC: im sure
JenneUCSC: with inactives and such
Kdadams76: yeah....the inactives are the ones i've heard the most
JenneUCSC: just keep you, tay, and lucas safe and i will be happy!
JenneUCSC: you are my favorite boyz!
Kdadams76: that's the plan!
JenneUCSC: big steve is 4th
JenneUCSC: and i havnt met the others
Kdadams76: yeah he's pretty cool
JenneUCSC: cept ryan
JenneUCSC: but poop on him
Kdadams76: LOL
JenneUCSC: i really want him gone most to be honest. but i figure the inactives will go first
Kdadams76: who knows though
Kdadams76: i haven't really talked to ryan all that much
JenneUCSC: well i hope we crush ya'll tomorrow in the challenge
JenneUCSC: :-P
Kdadams76: ain't happenin!
Kdadams76: lol
Kdadams76: i got booted
JenneUCSC: when?
Kdadams76: just now...got disconnected
JenneUCSC: i hate when that happens
Kdadams76: me too
JenneUCSC: ok babe, i need to go hang wit da man. ive barely seen him all week
JenneUCSC: but ill talk to you tomorrow.
JenneUCSC: u sleep tight. get some rest
Kdadams76: night night

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: hey
ryansurvivor1984: hello
Kdadams76: how's it going?
ryansurvivor1984: not bad just read tree mail
Kdadams76: you're still with me right?
ryansurvivor1984: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: have you heard anything
ryansurvivor1984: from the other side
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: what?
Kdadams76: that you're making all these alliances
ryansurvivor1984: who said what?
Kdadams76: some big 4 alliance consisting of you, rami, big steve and lucas
ryansurvivor1984: yes that's right... that was what we were promised at the begining, however when all the mitch stuff went down I started questioning his loyalty
ryansurvivor1984: and then you tell me that you taylor and lucas have a 3 person block
ryansurvivor1984: I am with you, you don't need to worry
Kdadams76: k....just making sure....seems like its getting really shifty around tribe arrow....lol
Kdadams76: did you PM Tonay today?
ryansurvivor1984: and it all revolves around the same guy that started all the he said she said last time round
Kdadams76: yeah
Kdadams76: did you PM Tony today?
ryansurvivor1984: no why
ryansurvivor1984: he IM'd me and said that he wanted to talk to me
Kdadams76: Lucas told me that Tony got a PM from you today
ryansurvivor1984: nope I sent him one yesterday and one before the last tc.
ryansurvivor1984: I was trying to fill him in on getting rid of mitch the first time and seeing where he stood for the second elimination
ryansurvivor1984: its good that your talking to me about these things because any lack of comm. can cause big problems
Kdadams76: lucas said you PM'd Tony and asked him into the big 4
ryansurvivor1984: no
ryansurvivor1984: which big four
Kdadams76: you, rami, Big Steve, and Lucas
ryansurvivor1984: because the one I had with lucas was full and no longer exists
ryansurvivor1984: all I said was that I could help him out
ryansurvivor1984: if he was interested
Kdadams76: better be careful
ryansurvivor1984: I remember being very vague because I didn't know where he was at in the game
ryansurvivor1984: this is lucas at his best
ryansurvivor1984: whether tony said this or not lucas won't mention it to me he will just pass it on to the others to make me look like I'm trying to stir things up
Kdadams76: true
Kdadams76: i'm in a vary precarious situation...lol
ryansurvivor1984: have they wavered on getting rid of lil' steve?
Kdadams76: eeehh
Kdadams76: somewhat
Kdadams76: lol
ryansurvivor1984: what do you mean please be honest
Kdadams76: now it was just a suggestion i think....not a definite target mind you
Kdadams76: and please understand the very precarious situation i'm in being in the middle
ryansurvivor1984: thats fine
Kdadams76: you
ryansurvivor1984: that's too bad...
Kdadams76: NOT A DEFINITE TARGET
Kdadams76: just a suggestion
ryansurvivor1984: I know thanks for being honest
Kdadams76: please don't get me in trouble
ryansurvivor1984: I won't I put my trust in you and I appreciate your honesty
ryansurvivor1984: I know that your not plotting its them
Kdadams76: i don't know how i found myself in the middle
ryansurvivor1984: you saw a snake (lucas) and you realized that he got us to eliminate a strong player and you wanted to change how the game would be played
Kdadams76: here is where my loyalty lies.....to you, rami, and Taylor...even though taylor seems to be on the other side
ryansurvivor1984: thank you for your support
Kdadams76: hopefully we can get the 4 of us together, but if i can spy for both sides it might be able to keep the 4 of us safe
ryansurvivor1984: yup... I would never even consider getting rid of taylor
ryansurvivor1984: he is a nice guy
Kdadams76: yeah i like him
Kdadams76: and i like you and rami
ryansurvivor1984: so lucas is planning to get rid of me with whose votes has he said?
Kdadams76: he just said it was a suggestion
Kdadams76: i told him it was not a good suggestion
Kdadams76: LOL
ryansurvivor1984: thanks
Kdadams76: I told him that inactives are better because we need the active people right now
ryansurvivor1984: because if I go next he will be after Rami next
ryansurvivor1984: he has already started lying to him now
Kdadams76: i won't let it happen
ryansurvivor1984: again thanks now I'm going to stop thinking about this and focus on the challenge
ryansurvivor1984: what do you think it will be
Kdadams76: i have no earthly idea, but we have to work together and I don't like that it starts at 3:30 my time
ryansurvivor1984: are you central
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: me too
ryansurvivor1984: and I have a haircut at 3:15
ryansurvivor1984: but I'll go in early to get back here in time
Kdadams76: i don't get off work until 4 central
Kdadams76: and it will be 4:30 before i get home
ryansurvivor1984: It sounds like were are going to have to answer questions for a quiz
ryansurvivor1984: If its a race maybe we can just focus on getting every question right
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: so that hopefully time won't matter
Kdadams76: i hate not knowing what the challenge is gonna be
ryansurvivor1984: yeah me too
ryansurvivor1984: the last one though was the one I was hoping we didn't get
ryansurvivor1984: cause you really have no control other than staying infront of the computer for 2 days
Kdadams76: the hot potato?
ryansurvivor1984: yeah
Kdadams76: yeah but while i was away...i stayed logged into the board
ryansurvivor1984: me too
ryansurvivor1984: all day at school I checked in and re-logged in
Kdadams76: and while i was at work (where i can be on the board all day) i never logged in...just checked frequently as a guest to see who was logged in
ryansurvivor1984: lol
Kdadams76: did you know that girls were already lying about me???
ryansurvivor1984: what do you mean?
Kdadams76: i was told today that some of the girls were spreading to each other that I said certain girls were a target
Kdadams76: LOL
Kdadams76: i've never even talked strategy to one girl this whole time!
ryansurvivor1984: I bet that what I said to steve probably got to them as well then
Kdadams76: what did you say to steve?
ryansurvivor1984: I said that I thought that maybe Kelley would go simply because she is the one I see on the least
Kdadams76: see...i was careful about that when people asked...i just said the less actives
Kdadams76: lol
ryansurvivor1984: I should take lessons from you...lol
Kdadams76: lol
Kdadams76: i've just learned you have to be very very cautious of what you say!
ryansurvivor1984: yeah no doubt
Kdadams76: well...taylor says he's trusts me...but i hope that that trust is not broken if i have to go against lucas
Kdadams76: surely he'll know that it doesn't mean anyone's after him
ryansurvivor1984: thats it exactly
ryansurvivor1984: I had said that to him
ryansurvivor1984: that nobody has even mentioned his name and that he has nothing to worry about
Kdadams76: he does seem a little paranoid
ryansurvivor1984: does he know that lucas has made alliances to more people than just you two
Kdadams76: i'm not really sure
Kdadams76: but lucas has told me all the people he's alligned with
ryansurvivor1984: who did he say
Kdadams76: he's got you, rami, big steve.....then me and taylor on the flipside
ryansurvivor1984: he said that
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: I wonder why he didn't come out and tell me and rami
ryansurvivor1984: no I feel really played
ryansurvivor1984: I can't believe that I was that off
Kdadams76: this stays between me and you ok?
Kdadams76: don't even tell rami
ryansurvivor1984: of course
ryansurvivor1984: thats fine
Kdadams76: i think the best way to work through this is to be super slueth
ryansurvivor1984: just let me know what you want left between us k
Kdadams76: k
ryansurvivor1984: yeah cause he has a way to persuade people
ryansurvivor1984: what are you thinking
Kdadams76: first off...i hope this playing of both sides of mine doesn't ever make you doubt me....you, Rami, and Taylor are 3 names that i will NEVER write down until final 4 if we all get that far....k?
Kdadams76: with Lucas trusting me the way he does...i can keep the valuable info coming to you as long as no one knows whats going on here between me and you
ryansurvivor1984: ok
ryansurvivor1984: that makes sense
ryansurvivor1984: if you are playing me you are doing a good job, but don't take that offensively it just shows the kind of trust I have
Kdadams76: lol....well i'm not playing you
Kdadams76: i give you my word on that
Kdadams76: i know that's not much in this game
ryansurvivor1984: i believe you don't worry
Kdadams76: cool
Kdadams76: how do you feel about Big Steve?
ryansurvivor1984: so have you thought of who we can pull in as a fourth
ryansurvivor1984: I'm not sure with him
Kdadams76: i'm not eithe
Kdadams76: either
ryansurvivor1984: I've never really had any in depth convos.
Kdadams76: he seems very shifty to me...so we might not want to share valuable info with him
Kdadams76: as for the 4th
Kdadams76: i think we wait and see who's getting targeted and pull them in
ryansurvivor1984: ok
ryansurvivor1984: to me if you can push the guys on lil' steven than I think that he will feel the heat and might go with us
ryansurvivor1984: but again I'm not too sure
Kdadams76: yeah....the allusive lil steven seems like a player
ryansurvivor1984: and if he is in a tight squeeze I think that he would play to save his own skin
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: plus if any of the three of us ended up against him in the final 2 I don't see him as that much of a threat
Kdadams76: naaa...i don't think he'd make it that far
ryansurvivor1984: I know I'm just saying that if he did it would be to our benefit potentially
ryansurvivor1984: although I am not sure how much we can trust him either