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Post by Kyle on Jan 26, 2005 19:14:00 GMT -5
Kdadams76: well i knew i had a bad feeling about that challenge
ryansurvivor1984: yeah
Kdadams76: sigh
ryansurvivor1984: have you talked to anyone since?
Kdadams76: no you're the frist person...i just got home from work
ryansurvivor1984: this is going to be interesting its been so long since the last tc for us
ryansurvivor1984: who are you thinking?
Kdadams76: this is going to be a tough one
Kdadams76: since i don't think we are switching
Kdadams76: i think our safest bet is lil to keep us ahead of the girls
Kdadams76: especially with the next challenge being live
Kdadams76: *lil steve
ryansurvivor1984: I just really think that Tony should be the one to go
Kdadams76: you think??
ryansurvivor1984: to me we are getting close to the merge...
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: and he hasn't proven to ever be interested in the game whereas tony has
ryansurvivor1984: and as for the next challenge we can sit him out
ryansurvivor1984: so he won't hurt us
Kdadams76: you mean you want tony out?
ryansurvivor1984: yeah
Kdadams76: you just said he shows more interest in the game?
ryansurvivor1984: plus I don't think many people have talked to lil' steve so he'd be easier to sway his vote than tony
ryansurvivor1984: no lil' steve has shown less interest in the game
ryansurvivor1984: so come the merge he shouldn't be a competition when we get to individual immunity
ryansurvivor1984: what do you think?
Kdadams76: well...i agree with him being an easy sway....but to get to the merge, we have to be strong so we can stay ahead of the girls....if we keep lil steven we risk that
ryansurvivor1984: ok if the merge is at 10 and we have 14 now soon to be 13 we will still have a 7-6 advantage
ryansurvivor1984: if he sits the next one out and say we win than we will be at 7-5
ryansurvivor1984: after that if he causes us to lose any of the challenge, with him we will have a 4-3 advantage over the other guys
ryansurvivor1984: he just seems to be able to help us more so than tony
ryansurvivor1984: thoughts?
Kdadams76: i'm thinking tony has more in him...yesterday was just a stroke of bad luck for him cause he was online most of the evening
Kdadams76: it could've happened to if you ahdn't been there to save me
ryansurvivor1984: true..
ryansurvivor1984: I just think that as much as steven will hurt us I think that he brings more benefits than tony
Kdadams76: man, i don't know what to do
ryansurvivor1984: who do you think tony would help first you me and rami or lucas and steve
Kdadams76: that i can't answer
Kdadams76: do you think lil steven would work with us?
ryansurvivor1984: definately
ryansurvivor1984: if we are going to help him stay he would owe it to us
Kdadams76: i'm just afraid of him losing challenges for us
ryansurvivor1984: but realistically other than the 3rd challenge tony has done much
ryansurvivor1984: steven hasn't either but he has at least helped in most of them
ryansurvivor1984: what are the others saying?
Kdadams76: well i'm talking to big steve and he's saying lil steven
ryansurvivor1984: has he said why?
ryansurvivor1984: let me guess that's what lucas told him to do
Kdadams76: just cause he's been the name fresh on everyone's minds since day 1
ryansurvivor1984: to me tony wasn't even on for the first week and a half
ryansurvivor1984: why is it that everyone has taken a liking to him?
Kdadams76: tony?
ryansurvivor1984: yeah
Kdadams76: that i can't answer
Kdadams76: maybe he's likeable?
Kdadams76: i have only had one convo with him
ryansurvivor1984: but he has barely been on
Kdadams76: maybe cause he busted his but for that one challenge
ryansurvivor1984: yeah i've had like two
ryansurvivor1984: doesn't that threaten you a bit
Kdadams76: tony?
ryansurvivor1984: yes
ryansurvivor1984: I just think that by keeping steven it takes away a competitor later on
Kdadams76: yeah
Kdadams76: what does rami think?
ryansurvivor1984: i haven't talked to him lately
Kdadams76: hmmm
Kdadams76: we just need to all 3 get together and put our heads together
ryansurvivor1984: agreed
ryansurvivor1984: it will be easier talking strategy
Kdadams76: yeah so maybe later on tonight the 3 of us can get together
ryansurvivor1984: for sure
Kdadams76: ok..well i'm going to post the convo then i have to jet
ryansurvivor1984: alright
Kdadams76: hopefully i'll see ya tonight
ryansurvivor1984: ya for sure
ryansurvivor1984: ttyl
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Post by Kyle on Jan 26, 2005 19:35:16 GMT -5
Kdadams76: bad stroke of luck huh?
LucasHorowitz: yup
LucasHorowitz: oh well
LucasHorowitz: this just makes us stronger since we're losing a weak player
Kdadams76: at least we still have an advantage over the girls
LucasHorowitz: yup!
Kdadams76: which is how we need to keep it
LucasHorowitz: anyone talk to you about the vote yet?
Kdadams76: i'm hearing lil steven or tony
LucasHorowitz: well good to see that talk is consistent :-)
Kdadams76: yeah its been that way, and that sets me at ease that we aren't at each other's throats
LucasHorowitz: any preference?
Kdadams76: well...didn't you say that Tony is part of "us"?
LucasHorowitz: yup. he ain't letting go of us
LucasHorowitz: he's really worried
Kdadams76: heres pros for letting go of either:
Kdadams76: Steve: because he's the winkest link
Kdadams76: Tony: Because (according to some) is less interested in the game
Kdadams76: here's the cons for each:
Kdadams76: Steven: cause he could be an easy swing vote come the merge
Kdadams76: Tony: cause he could be an easy swing vote come the merge
Kdadams76: LOL
LucasHorowitz: well I prefer to keep Tony with us, lol
LucasHorowitz: it means me tyou and taylor control the next vote if it happens
Kdadams76: i honestly would too, because i feel like lil steven is weaker and i don't want to lose another challenge
LucasHorowitz: I told him to get the idol
LucasHorowitz: I doubt he would have if I didn't
Kdadams76: can i vent to you a little??? show you a little of my vulnerable side??
LucasHorowitz: i did it yesterday so have at it!
Kdadams76: how did you know that jamie and i knew each other?
LucasHorowitz: I was checking up on Lil Steve and Tony
LucasHorowitz: and found some games
LucasHorowitz: and lo and behold
Kdadams76: ok....pheeewww
LucasHorowitz: you know him and Jamie
LucasHorowitz: and I panicked :-)
Kdadams76: i thought jamie was talking....and to be honest, my being in this game with her is more of a threat to me then an advantage
LucasHorowitz: I'll make a note. she seems to be UTRing over there
Kdadams76: yeah a little bit
LucasHorowitz: oh!
LucasHorowitz: almost forgot
Kdadams76: and she knows how i play and i'm afraid she'll really the girls or anyone else against me
LucasHorowitz: Jenne has some sway there and I know they're gunning for Ryan if they ever get their hands on him
Kdadams76: all the girls?
LucasHorowitz: Jenne and whoever is in their alliance which seems to be her, Jamie, Annette, and Gracie right now
Kdadams76: ok
Kdadams76: wow this game is so sneaky
Kdadams76: LOL
LucasHorowitz: anyways, before i foget
LucasHorowitz: Big Steve vented to jenne today
Kdadams76: about?
LucasHorowitz: everything it seems lol
LucasHorowitz: but he plans to bolt to the girls
LucasHorowitz: he does seem to like and trust you though
Kdadams76: i've been giving him support for the death of his grandfather
Kdadams76: which is sincere...
LucasHorowitz: I'm sincere too
Kdadams76: but i like to gain his confidence too
LucasHorowitz: but he is afraid of everyone else
Kdadams76: yeah he gives me that vibe when i talk to him
Kdadams76: i'd like to take him as far as we can, that is if he is not going to betray us for the chicks!
LucasHorowitz: he needs to be offered an alliance
LucasHorowitz: what me and others say to him doesn't seem to qualify I guess
Kdadams76: i'll talk to him
LucasHorowitz: because I would like to, if we do have to go to tc again, eliminate Ryan or Rami since they're not allied with us
LucasHorowitz: and I want Big Steve on board for that
Kdadams76: ok
LucasHorowitz: but i would rather not go to tc at all :-)
Kdadams76: yeah that's what i'm screamin
Kdadams76: do you think we can pull it off?
LucasHorowitz: you know...
LucasHorowitz: I'm afraid we're switching
LucasHorowitz: or merging this friday
Kdadams76: really??
LucasHorowitz: I'm wondering but who knows?
Kdadams76: i have this nervous feeling in the pit of my stomach
LucasHorowitz: I've had it....
LucasHorowitz: when did this game start? lol
Kdadams76: jan 10
Kdadams76: LOL
Kdadams76: that's long nervous feeling
Kdadams76: WOAH...i. gotta jet!
Kdadams76: i'm late!
LucasHorowitz: bye bye!
Kdadams76: we'll pick this up later, cool?
LucasHorowitz: yup
LucasHorowitz: take care!
Kdadams76: you too man
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Post by Kyle on Jan 26, 2005 19:39:36 GMT -5
Kdadams76: hey bud
taylorserveshard: hey
Kdadams76: what's up?
taylorserveshard: not much
taylorserveshard: we lost the ic :-(
Kdadams76: i know it sucks
Kdadams76: but at least we've got slack to cut
taylorserveshard: right
taylorserveshard: lil steve?
Kdadams76: yeah that's what i'm thinking
Kdadams76: you didn't tell me about God's best friend
Kdadams76: lol
taylorserveshard: wow?
taylorserveshard: what?
Kdadams76: Jenne
Kdadams76: did you know her before this game started?
taylorserveshard: yes I did
taylorserveshard: and how did you find out?
Kdadams76: i saw the game that you hosted
Kdadams76: and some posts
taylorserveshard: who gave you the link?
Kdadams76: Lucas...he was telling me that you host games
taylorserveshard: really
taylorserveshard: okay
taylorserveshard: Jenne and I have known each other for a little while yes
taylorserveshard: but sometimes jenne isn't very trusting
Kdadams76: it's cool....cause i feel confident that you guys are on my side
Kdadams76: you don't think you can fully trust her?
taylorserveshard: no no no no
taylorserveshard: I LOVE JENNE
taylorserveshard: I really do
taylorserveshard: but honestly I would rather have you and I in the final two
Kdadams76: are you being serious or is all of this just a huge game?
Kdadams76: cause you were my first friend in this game
taylorserveshard: I'm serious
taylorserveshard: I want you and I in the final two
taylorserveshard: I know Jenne, but I want to go to the final two with you
taylorserveshard: you know?
Kdadams76: yeah...i like a lot of people in this game too...but you're my pick for final 2
Kdadams76: but don't get mad at Lucas...it was in no way strategy or trying to rat you out
Kdadams76: it was just something he thought was cool
taylorserveshard: I'm not
Kdadams76: ok cool
taylorserveshard: I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a game move
Kdadams76: no not at all
taylorserveshard: do you like it? Have you read it?
Kdadams76: i read some of the first episode....really unique...i like it a lot
Kdadams76: i'm gonna host a game in march...you should apply
taylorserveshard: cool
Kdadams76: i'll give you the link...but i gotta go..i'm already late!
Kdadams76: i'll holler at you later
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Post by Kyle on Jan 27, 2005 0:47:54 GMT -5
Kdadams76: oh hey
ryansurvivor1984: does it still show that i'm away?
Kdadams76: no
ryansurvivor1984: ok... so
ryansurvivor1984: whats up
Kdadams76: nothing just got home
Kdadams76: i don't guess you've seen rami today huh?
ryansurvivor1984: nope
Kdadams76: brb
ryansurvivor1984: k
Kdadams76: ok back
ryansurvivor1984: so have you thought of anything new
Kdadams76: well...i was talking to big steve
ryansurvivor1984: and
Kdadams76: and he seems pretty set on lil steven
Kdadams76: and if we go tony...there be a 4 way tie
Kdadams76: lil steven will go anyway
ryansurvivor1984: Do you have any alliance or pacts or anything with Jenne please be honest
Kdadams76: i talk with jenne a lot, but honestly, we have never talked strategy or uttered the words alliance to each other
ryansurvivor1984: well then you should probably know that Taylor and her have something going on
ryansurvivor1984: and I'm sure that Lucas is in on it too
Kdadams76: do tell
ryansurvivor1984: I was talking to taylor saying how I should maybe talk to one of the girls to see where they stand on the two guys
ryansurvivor1984: to see which one they are most likely to try and pull in for votes after the merge
ryansurvivor1984: and after a long pause taylor wrote... you should... talk to Jenne she is on.
ryansurvivor1984: but jamie was also on so I was confused
ryansurvivor1984: I spoke to jenne and she said that she hadn't talked to tony yet and that she found lil' steve to be kinda weird but cute
ryansurvivor1984: now steven has never given me the impression that he could even maintain a convos. so I suspect that taylor told jenne to say that so that I would think that she would try to pull lil' steve in after the merge and then I would vote him out instead of tony
ryansurvivor1984: you read me so far
Kdadams76: yeah i'm readin
ryansurvivor1984: so if you haven't heard anything about this jenne thing from taylor or lucas I would speculate that you may not be as involved in that alliance as you thought
ryansurvivor1984: I'm not trying to start anything
ryansurvivor1984: just this isn't the first time they have played us
ryansurvivor1984: and it is kinda getting annoying
Kdadams76: man this is giving me a headache
ryansurvivor1984: that makes two of us
Kdadams76: not knowing what's happening over there on the girls tribe...we don't really know which way they are leaning
ryansurvivor1984: i think the whole tony steve thing was a set-up and I do have faith that lil' steven will stick with us
ryansurvivor1984: so if you me rami and lil steven voted lucas we would take away their control and we would be in the majority for the next week
ryansurvivor1984: thoughts?
Kdadams76: but just how much would that stir up the girls...we gotta consider that
ryansurvivor1984: but if we hold off until later lucas taylor jenne gracie and who knows who else will out power us
ryansurvivor1984: if we do it now we will be four strong and then we can try to pull in the loose ends
Kdadams76: so you, me, rami, and lil steve?
ryansurvivor1984: yeah unless you know of someone else we could safely pull in for a vote
Kdadams76: no because i don't know if we should bring big steve into it
ryansurvivor1984: agreed
ryansurvivor1984: and for next week i can't see them switching tribes up
ryansurvivor1984: and once this happens the four of us need to still act like their was now voting block but we just discussed it and kept catching him in lies and we were sick of it
ryansurvivor1984: that way the guys hopefully won't team up against us and view us as threats
Kdadams76: this whole thing makes me so nervous....lol
ryansurvivor1984: someone has to dethrown them and it mine as well be us
Kdadams76: and you haven't talked to rami at all??
Kdadams76: has he fallen off the face of the earth?
ryansurvivor1984: i think he is working a lot lately
ryansurvivor1984: numbers wise we need to do it now
ryansurvivor1984: cause they probably wouldn't do a switch with an odd number of castaways
Kdadams76: but they could do a 6 and 6 at 12
ryansurvivor1984: so that means that if we vote off lucas and we lose again next week we are still in control
ryansurvivor1984: yeah but thats two tc's away
ryansurvivor1984: and if we vote out lil' steve than we are in the minority next week
ryansurvivor1984: or rather me and rami and tony (the ones least connected to lucas)
ryansurvivor1984: scenario: we get rid of lucas and win the next ic... there will be 12 castaways left 7 of which would be males 4 of whom would be in our alliance
ryansurvivor1984: that means that we would only need 2 votes if the switch put 2 of us on each side of the switch for a majority vote
ryansurvivor1984: plus we could always force tiebreakers... I know how 2/3 tc's have gone for the girls
Kdadams76: how?
ryansurvivor1984: some of the girls have let it slip out
Kdadams76: i know the first vote was 7 to 2
Kdadams76: what were the others?
ryansurvivor1984: do you know who got the two
Kdadams76: jenne
ryansurvivor1984: yeah and the 2nd one was 7-1
ryansurvivor1984: with kelley getting a vote
ryansurvivor1984: I didn't hear how ashlee's tc went though
Kdadams76: so seems like all the girls are pretty tight
ryansurvivor1984: ya
Kdadams76: THAT'S what scares me
ryansurvivor1984: so say you and me end up on a tribe after the switch with tony,jenne, ellie and gracie for instance
ryansurvivor1984: all we need to do is convince tony ellie or gracie to vote jenne and in a tiebreaker we would win
ryansurvivor1984: but if we leave lucas alone then when we are down to 12 his alliances will include : Jenne, Gracie(tight with Jenne I heard), Taylor, Big Steve, and possibly they'll pull in Tony. That would give them six and a possible majority if the tiebreakers work out
ryansurvivor1984: and I'm sure that the girls have some allies that would make it a majority
ryansurvivor1984: plus if you count all of his alliances well then you me and rami are also included
Kdadams76: you've been doing a lot of thinking, huh?
Kdadams76: lol
ryansurvivor1984: I didn't have many people to talk to tonight lol
Kdadams76: LOL
ryansurvivor1984: plus when you trust people its easier to plan strategy around them
Kdadams76: yeah that is true
ryansurvivor1984: plus if we win this challenge and the girls get rid of kelley than Ellie and Jamie may start to feel the heat which could work to our advantage if there is a switch
Kdadams76: gosh, my head is spinning....lol
ryansurvivor1984: are you thinking that lucas is the best target though
Kdadams76: i'm thinking he's one of the biggest players
Kdadams76: or hardest players
ryansurvivor1984: yup... i'll admit that sometimes I will do a little playing myself but you need some integrity in this game
ryansurvivor1984: and to go off making promises you don't mean thats just frustrating
Kdadams76: has Lucas made promises to you?
ryansurvivor1984: well if you call an alliance/final 3 than yup
Kdadams76: you know that's such a huge promise for this early in the game!!! LOL
ryansurvivor1984: yeah that's why I was a little taken back when I heard he had alliances with you and taylor as well
ryansurvivor1984: I was thinking ok you played me I'm not that stupid though
Kdadams76: lucas lucas lucas
Kdadams76: let's make sure we can get ahold of Rami and lil steven and see if we're down with this
Kdadams76: PM me tomorrow...i check the board off and on all day
ryansurvivor1984: for sure with it being a live tc it should be easier
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: I may be late but don't worry I'm gonna post it tom. during the day in the event that I'm not on time
Kdadams76: ok
Kdadams76: well then i'll chat at ya tomorrow
ryansurvivor1984: k seeya
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