Convos 1/31/04

[Kyle]

ryansurvivor1984: hello
Kdadams76: hey man what's up?
ryansurvivor1984: not much
Kdadams76: i just got home from work
ryansurvivor1984: talked to steve
Kdadams76: and?
ryansurvivor1984: he said that he is definately voting for tony
Kdadams76: and you believe that?
ryansurvivor1984: who knows do you know otherwise
Kdadams76: Lucas told me he was on board to vote you
ryansurvivor1984: really
ryansurvivor1984: when did lucas say that
Kdadams76: last night
ryansurvivor1984: wow i didn't realize how hard people were already playing the game
Kdadams76: yeah...and its annoying
Kdadams76: so you're voting for Tony?
ryansurvivor1984: i don't know anymore this whole steve thing kinda surprised me
ryansurvivor1984: is that what everyone else seems to be doing or are they coming after me
Kdadams76: the last i left a chat it was Rami
ryansurvivor1984: why is tony going unnoticed again
Kdadams76: because he's an easy sway for Lucas
ryansurvivor1984: and see that's why i still think that lucas needs to go
ryansurvivor1984: if he gets to the merge there will be no stopping him
Kdadams76: i know...i'm talking to taylor now
ryansurvivor1984: if you suggest it and taylor doesn't want to vote him out all he needs to do is vote away from the other three
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: cause say they vote for me or rami and we vote lucas
ryansurvivor1984: if taylor votes tony than the tie will go in our favor
ryansurvivor1984: i'm talking to taylor
Kdadams76: not about the vote are you??
ryansurvivor1984: and he's asking what i've heard and all i said was that i spoke to steve and now i'm talking to you
ryansurvivor1984: he approached me and all i said was that you were trying to figure out whats been going on
ryansurvivor1984: he said that you mentioned lucas what should i say?
Kdadams76: tell him yes
ryansurvivor1984: he said that he doesn't think its a great idea
ryansurvivor1984: but we're still discussing it
ryansurvivor1984: are you guys talking too
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: anything important
ryansurvivor1984: i just found out he has agreements with tony as well
Kdadams76: taylor?
ryansurvivor1984: yup
ryansurvivor1984: no lucas sorry
Kdadams76: lucas has had agreements with everyone
ryansurvivor1984: i know and taylor sees that and is saying he would go through if the numbers are there
ryansurvivor1984: i think we may be able to pull it off
ryansurvivor1984: is he saying anything to you?
Kdadams76: he responds a little slow...lol
ryansurvivor1984: lol
ryansurvivor1984: did you remind him of that thing that lucas told you about him?
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: has he leaned towards voting with us
Kdadams76: i'm so tired of this game....lol
ryansurvivor1984: common' you know you like it
ryansurvivor1984: ... its definately a lesson in human nature lol
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984 is idle at 5:31:53 PM.
ryansurvivor1984 is no longer idle at 5:39:49 PM.
Kdadams76: hey
ryansurvivor1984: hey
Kdadams76: we're still deliberating, but would you be cool with a tony target tonight?
ryansurvivor1984: isn't the rest of the guys voting rami
Kdadams76: lucas and tony....steve is a wild card.
ryansurvivor1984: i would still like to get rid of lucas this week
Kdadams76: well here's the thing....we don't know how many of the girls are wrapped around Lucas.....we want to be safe at tc
Kdadams76: even if we go with lucas to a merge, we have numbers cause taylor is aware of his crazieness
ryansurvivor1984: but if we get to the merge what if the girls are on his side?
Kdadams76: cause i think taylor and i have more of a pull with them
ryansurvivor1984: i just have troubles trusting him
Kdadams76: taylorserveshard: here is the thing with lucas
taylorserveshard: he is so agressive that in the end game he will murder himself
ryansurvivor1984: if tony is what you guys want though then better him than me
Kdadams76: that's where i am at this point
Kdadams76: this is too much for me
Kdadams76: and better him than rami
ryansurvivor1984: what happens next though
ryansurvivor1984: if you guys vote tony and lucas votes rami than he'll know your not with him
Kdadams76: well...he might not be here tonight so we could just tell him that we had a gut impulse at teh last minute
ryansurvivor1984: true
ryansurvivor1984: are you talking to taylor
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: why don't we all chat
ryansurvivor1984: that way we can all get everything out there for discussion
Kdadams76: ok
Kdadams76: i might be slow though...lol
ryansurvivor1984: have you been talking to steve?
Kdadams76: yes
ryansurvivor1984: did you mention lucas's name?
Kdadams76: he asked if i could get enough votes against lucas
ryansurvivor1984: really
Kdadams76: yeah
ryansurvivor1984: what did you say?
Kdadams76: i'm just trying to tell him that tony might be safer
ryansurvivor1984: but if the whole tribe will go along with it don't you get the feeling that the team would be better without him?
ryansurvivor1984: should we tell taylor?
Kdadams76: my chat is lagging
ryansurvivor1984: mine too
ryansurvivor1984: but should we tell taylor about the steve thing
ryansurvivor1984: hello?
Kdadams76: hold on i have 11 im's open
Kdadams76: lol
ryansurvivor1984: k
Kdadams76: still tony
ryansurvivor1984: should we tell taylor about steve?
Kdadams76: i did
ryansurvivor1984: and?
Kdadams76: still tony
ryansurvivor1984: ok
Kdadams76: i agree though, i think lucas is self destructive
ryansurvivor1984: thats fine we can get rid of him later on
Kdadams76: yeah i think so too
ryansurvivor1984: k
Kdadams76: did you save this convo?
ryansurvivor1984: in my journal
ryansurvivor1984: not yet
ryansurvivor1984: y
Kdadams76: cause i need to go...and i didn't feel like it....LOL
ryansurvivor1984: ok thats fine
ryansurvivor1984: i'll save it
Kdadams76: do you have a headache yet?
Kdadams76: lol
ryansurvivor1984: getting there lol

[Kyle]

taylorserveshard: Hey
Kdadams76: hey what's up?
taylorserveshard: not much
taylorserveshard: you?
Kdadams76: just checkin on things before i go work out
Kdadams76: just got home from work
Kdadams76: you work out today?
taylorserveshard: yeah you?
Kdadams76: i'm going to in a bit
taylorserveshard: awesome
Kdadams76: chest?
taylorserveshard: yeah!
taylorserveshard: went awesome
taylorserveshard: realy pumped
Kdadams76: i think i'm gonna do back today....everyone does chest on monday and the benches will be taken
Kdadams76: how brave are you?
taylorserveshard: pretty why?
Kdadams76: you brave enough to rock the vote tonight?
taylorserveshard: what's happening?
Kdadams76: I like him and all, but Lucas it is too all over the map and it's giving me a headache
taylorserveshard: I mean who do you have against him
Kdadams76: ryan, rami, and you if you will
taylorserveshard: have you even mentioned it to him
Kdadams76: to ryan?
taylorserveshard: yeah
Kdadams76: yeah...i was trying to keep him from voting Lucas the last TC and the only thing that stopped him and Rami both was Lil steven not showing up
Kdadams76: thoughts?
taylorserveshard: I don't think so
taylorserveshard: honestly
taylorserveshard: from what I've heard from Gracie Jenne and everyone else it seems like lucas is with US
Kdadams76: i trusted him until he popped in and started making me doubt you
Kdadams76: he's done that about EVERY single person i've talked to
taylorserveshard: what did he say
Kdadams76: he told me at the last vote that you were gonna try and rock the vote but that i needed to stand my ground
Kdadams76: you know i'm gonna stick with you for whatever
taylorserveshard: I know
taylorserveshard: my question is this
taylorserveshard: I've heard from Gracie and From Jenne that lucas wants to stick by us
taylorserveshard: Ryan and Rami who knows
Kdadams76: well i know ryan and rami want to stick with me.....but trust me you come first
taylorserveshard: okay
Kdadams76: so then i don't know what to do
Kdadams76: for all we know, gracie and jenne could be planning this whole big thing with him
taylorserveshard: kyle remember i've known jenne for a long time
Kdadams76: how can i forget....that little piece of info you withheld from me
taylorserveshard: I'm sorry
taylorserveshard: I should have told you
taylorserveshard: it's just\
Kdadams76: you're not obligated
Kdadams76: i shouldn't have said that
taylorserveshard: I was afraid you might slip up and tell someone
Kdadams76: like lucas did
taylorserveshard: and then everyone would be like " Taylor and Jenne know each other. VOTE UM OUT."
Kdadams76: i like lucas, i really do....and whether's he's with us or not, he's not playing safe
Kdadams76: then how bout this....
Kdadams76: do you think we could get Lucas off his whole destroy Ryan kick and the 4 of us teaming up?
Kdadams76: then if we have gracie and jenne come the merge....then it would work
taylorserveshard: no won't happen
taylorserveshard: problem is
taylorserveshard: Jenne doesn't like ryan
Kdadams76: so is Jenne the leader?
taylorserveshard: no
taylorserveshard: no
taylorserveshard: I'm just saying that wouldn't work because of that reason
Kdadams76: well, whatever's gonna keep us safest
Kdadams76: whoever the vote goes to is gonna be equally hard for me
Kdadams76: but, i have no say
taylorserveshard: if you want lucas
taylorserveshard: I'l vote lucas
taylorserveshard: jenne/gracie will understand when I tell them about the 4000 allainces he has made
Kdadams76: you think so? that's the ONLY thing that makes me hesitate voting Lucas those 4000 alliances
taylorserveshard: why
Kdadams76: i'm sorry...i meant because of gracie and jenne
Kdadams76: their the only reason i hesitate
taylorserveshard: i will talk with jenne
Kdadams76: ok and i will disucss with gracie...you cool with that?
taylorserveshard: don't do it until like 5 minutes before tribal council
Kdadams76: crap!
Kdadams76: dangit...LOL
taylorserveshard: what did you say?
Kdadams76: i just asked her to be honest with me that through all the talk that me,you, her and jenne have somehwat of an unspoken alliance
Kdadams76: i just aksed her which guys she liked and which she didn't
taylorserveshard: okay
taylorserveshard: don't worry about that
taylorserveshard: you can talk with her
taylorserveshard: but don't mention lucas
Kdadams76: ok cool
Kdadams76: i won't
Kdadams76: ok...gracie has no opinion of ryan or tony...doesn't like rami, likes lucas and big steve
taylorserveshard: k
Kdadams76: so maybe it will be safer to stick with lucas
taylorserveshard: ooh god
Kdadams76: on no
Kdadams76: oh no
Kdadams76: what?
taylorserveshard: no
taylorserveshard: it's just
taylorserveshard: we've already talked with Ryan and Rami
taylorserveshard: if we switch and decide to keep lucas and vote of Rami
taylorserveshard: Ryan will come back and kill us
Kdadams76: oh this is too much....lol
Kdadams76: well then what about tony?
taylorserveshard: Tony is the "safe" option
taylorserveshard: if you can convice ryan and rami to go after tony
taylorserveshard: sure
Kdadams76: what is your gut?
taylorserveshard: gut says vote tony don't cause waves, go into the next tc safe
Kdadams76: that's what my gut is sayin too
taylorserveshard: brain says get rid of lucas he's going crazy
taylorserveshard: heart says keep lucas get rid of rami
taylorserveshard: that's why I'm conflicited
taylorserveshard: Tony is honestly our best bet
Kdadams76: yeah...so we'll have a better chance at the next challenges....and lucas won't go crazy cause he would understand after the fact
taylorserveshard: here is the thing with lucas
taylorserveshard: he is so agressive that in the end game he will murder himself
Kdadams76: i agree with that too
Kdadams76: he could get into the merge and rub people the wrong way
Kdadams76: plus i think we'd have numbers over him
taylorserveshard: then why are we trying to target him
taylorserveshard: erg
taylorserveshard: what's steve's sn?
Kdadams76: well...you've made me feel better about the lucas situation
taylorserveshard: please what's steve's sn
taylorserveshard: or tell him to im me
taylorserveshard is away at 6:03:27 PM.
taylorserveshard returned at 6:03:39 PM.
Kdadams76: oh sorry
Kdadams76: wooleybear2006
Kdadams76: you tlaking to steve
Kdadams76: ?
taylorserveshard: yes
Kdadams76: ok
Kdadams76: my chat is lagging
taylorserveshard: tony?
Kdadams76: tony's cool with me
Kdadams76: steve just asked me if we could get up enough votes for lucas....still tony?
taylorserveshard: still tony
Kdadams76: alright cool
Kdadams76: then i need to go work out
taylorserveshard: I need to go for a few as well
taylorserveshard: can you wait like ten minutes
Kdadams76: yeah
Kdadams76: what's up?
Kdadams76: i need to go work out so i can get back for TC

[Kyle]

JenneUCSC: goodluck tonight my dear! *kisses cheek*
Kdadams76: hey sweets
Kdadams76: was just about to message you
JenneUCSC: i couldnt let you go into TC with out a lil goodluck smoch
JenneUCSC:
Kdadams76: awww
JenneUCSC: *smooch
Kdadams76: *smack!
JenneUCSC:
JenneUCSC: you are ok right? taylor was talkn to me bout the flip flopping today
Kdadams76: yeah....we just want to be safe for challenges
JenneUCSC: looks like it will be a traditional merge
JenneUCSC: battle of the boys vs the girls to the end!
Kdadams76: lol....yeah
Kdadams76: but you're not plannin on taken us studly men out one by one if we come in underhanded are you???
Kdadams76: *winks
Kdadams76: *raises eyebrows
Kdadams76: *flexes pecs
JenneUCSC: mmmh i am sure we could come to an "understanding" love!
JenneUCSC: ;-)
Kdadams76: i should hope so...with someone as pretty as you....;-)
JenneUCSC: do you even know what i look like?
Kdadams76: yeah unless that pic isn't you
JenneUCSC: dats me
JenneUCSC: in a wig though
Kdadams76: love your smile!
JenneUCSC: halloweeny
JenneUCSC: aw shux sugar! my smile likes you too :-D
Kdadams76: awww
Kdadams76: ok i have TC
Kdadams76: !
JenneUCSC: goodluck!
Kdadams76: *crosses fingers
Kdadams76: sigh
Kdadams76: phewww
JenneUCSC: *hugs* nice to see you back unscathed
Kdadams76: thank you thank you
Kdadams76: now it's yall's turn
JenneUCSC: oh hells no!
JenneUCSC: you boys still havnt gotten the vote right!
JenneUCSC: you are gonna have to try again
JenneUCSC: sorry luv
JenneUCSC: :-P
Kdadams76: lol
JenneUCSC: if you were in danger, i would *consider* helpn a brother out...but i think you are fine
JenneUCSC: so im coming at ya'll both guns blazn
Kdadams76: *better have em loaded
JenneUCSC: look at you. big bad survivor man. outlasted outsmarting them all!
Kdadams76: them all? you mean the inactive palyers???
Kdadams76: lol
JenneUCSC: yah well, hey i was trying to stroke some ego
JenneUCSC: why did you interupt?
Kdadams76: cause i'm modest.
Kdadams76: *blush
JenneUCSC: so only 12 players left?
JenneUCSC: we've made it a 1/3 of the way thru
JenneUCSC: i have reached everyone of my goals
JenneUCSC: lets throw a party!
Kdadams76: i'm game
Kdadams76: lay out the details and i'l be there
JenneUCSC: better make it after the challenge then
JenneUCSC: lol
Kdadams76: yeah...lol
JenneUCSC: this is the furthest ive ever been in a survivor game
Kdadams76: i'm gonna go visit my favorite cousin, so i'll see ya gorgeous
JenneUCSC: i dont even know what to do with myself now
Kdadams76: LOL
JenneUCSC: ok hav efun wit da cousin
Kdadams76: i will
JenneUCSC: byeee!
Kdadams76: but not as much fun not being able to talk to you!
Kdadams76: byeee!

[Kyle]

Kdadams76: who let lucas off his leash?
taylorserveshard: lol
Kdadams76: who told him?
taylorserveshard: I kind of mentioned to gracy who mentioned to jenne who metioned to lucas
taylorserveshard: I'm trying to calm him down
taylorserveshard: it's my fault and I'm sorry
Kdadams76: no you're cool
taylorserveshard: no I'm not
Kdadams76: we just know now what to say to who
taylorserveshard: I'm so stupid
Kdadams76: lol...no you're not
taylorserveshard: but see this is how easily he sets off
taylorserveshard: so that's why we need to keep him around
Kdadams76: yeah he's freakin more paranoid than we are...lol
Kdadams76: did you vote tony?
taylorserveshard: did you vote ryan?
Kdadams76: no
Kdadams76: i voted tony
Kdadams76: who did you vote for
taylorserveshard: tony
Kdadams76: so it was either lucas or steve
taylorserveshard: we aren't merging
Kdadams76: taylor, what did you tell lucas?
Kdadams76: why did you tell him that ryan shook me up about him?
taylorserveshard: I didn't say that
taylorserveshard: atleast I don't think so
Kdadams76: hang on...i'll show you what i've put up with from him since day one
Kdadams76: LucasHorowitz: I heard Ryan shook you up about me. that's all
Kdadams76: who'd you hear that from?
LucasHorowitz: Taylor
Kdadams76: well, ryan didn't shake me up about you....you did
taylorserveshard: ugh
taylorserveshard: don't make him to angry it could hurt us
Kdadams76: what did you tell him?
Kdadams76: you really aren't with me are you
taylorserveshard: I said Ryan shook you up a bit about the vote, but on the other hand you were fine
taylorserveshard: Kyle
taylorserveshard: I am with you
taylorserveshard: 100%
taylorserveshard: I would save you in a heart beat
Kdadams76: lucas is repeating our convos from today like word for word
taylorserveshard: lucas is good like that
Kdadams76: he said that you and jenne both im'd him when he got online that he almost got voted out
taylorserveshard: I honestly only told him that ryan shook you up a bit but you where fine now
taylorserveshard: and that he shouldn
taylorserveshard: shouldn't worry about you
taylorserveshard: because you were with us
taylorserveshard: I was trying to save your ass
taylorserveshard: he imed me not him
taylorserveshard: \if you don't belive me fine
taylorserveshard: but I have always been with you and I will always be with you
taylorserveshard: You are my closeset friend out here
taylorserveshard: the first person I talked to
taylorserveshard: i would take you over jenne in the final 3
taylorserveshard: you are my final two partner
taylorserveshard: always have been, always will be
Kdadams76: but why did jenne know about everything?
taylorserveshard: because I needed to vent and karen wasn't on, I thought she would keep her mouth shut, and she didn't
taylorserveshard: it's my fault
taylorserveshard: it won't happen again
Kdadams76: well so obviously lucas and jenne are joined at the hip, and I may have just become the girls' prime target
taylorserveshard: no
taylorserveshard: Jenne hates ryan
taylorserveshard: you're fine
taylorserveshard: They all love you
taylorserveshard: seriously Kyle, I can't really say anything else to you
taylorserveshard: I ENJOY talking with you more than anyone else, we have so much in commen and I don't want you to go or turn on me, because I won't do that to you
Kdadams76: i'm not turning on you
Kdadams76: you are my closest friend here too
taylorserveshard: then why did you say that i wasn't with you?
taylorserveshard: that hurt
Kdadams76: i'm sorry, but lucas said as soon as he came online that you and jenne messaged him immediately telling him he almost got voted out
Kdadams76: or jenne did
Kdadams76: i'm sorry taylor
taylorserveshard: its okay
taylorserveshard: lets just not have this convo again
Kdadams76: i can do without it
Kdadams76: i'd rather not fight with you
taylorserveshard: agreed
Kdadams76: alright, i have to go visit my cousin
Kdadams76: so we're cool
taylorserveshard: k
Kdadams76: from here on out?
taylorserveshard: \cool
taylorserveshard: yeah
Kdadams76: *shake
taylorserveshard: *shakes
taylorserveshard: I want to see you with me 11 tcs from now
Kdadams76: i'll be right there

[Kyle]

LucasHorowitz: DUDE
Kdadams76: what's up?
LucasHorowitz: what the heck is going on with the vote??
Kdadams76: we're trying to be safe for the next challenge
LucasHorowitz: I know but listen, if the vote is tony and thats what you two want I'm doing it
LucasHorowitz: I'm not freaking out
Kdadams76: well ya almost knocked me over when i opened the door
LucasHorowitz: its just I got hit with a lot in ten minutes
LucasHorowitz: and I'm still absorbing
LucasHorowitz: I'm better now, I swear
LucasHorowitz: I've taken a deep breath now. I'm calm :-)
Kdadams76: heee -- heeee---hoooo
Kdadams76: heeee--heeee-hoooo
LucasHorowitz: I'm sorry. Really I am.
Kdadams76: it's cool
LucasHorowitz: will you sticking around after TC?
Kdadams76: i have to leave but might be back on later
LucasHorowitz: that's good enough.
Kdadams76: cool cool
LucasHorowitz: so we're voting Tony then?
Kdadams76: yeah
LucasHorowitz: ok. (I've calmed down. really)
Kdadams76: ok cool
Kdadams76: it's all good
Kdadams76: we're just trying to be safe for the next challenges
LucasHorowitz: that's cool. I said I'd do what you two want
Kdadams76: cool man
Kdadams76: we're not trying to totally ruffle the waters here, just being safe
LucasHorowitz: it's ok. like i said--it was totally out of nowehere and to deal with in ten minutes
Kdadams76: yeah i understand
LucasHorowitz: I'll be quiet :-)
Kdadams76: interesting
LucasHorowitz: who voted Ryan???
Kdadams76: *shrug
LucasHorowitz: are you going now then?
Kdadams76: yeah in just a sec...why whats up?
LucasHorowitz: I heard Ryan shook you up about me. that's all
Kdadams76: who'd you hear that from?
LucasHorowitz: Taylor
Kdadams76: well, ryan didn't shake me up about you....you did
LucasHorowitz: I am sorry
Kdadams76: and i already confronted you about it before
LucasHorowitz: and I was sincere
Kdadams76: well i thought we had cleared all tha tup
Kdadams76: that up
LucasHorowitz: as did I
LucasHorowitz: I still trust you.
Kdadams76: when did taylor tell you that?
LucasHorowitz: when i came online
LucasHorowitz: he and jenne were all "you almost got voted out"
LucasHorowitz: they freaked me out, man
LucasHorowitz: and he said it started with Ryan talking to you
LucasHorowitz: It's my fault because I have to look reliable
Kdadams76: so taylor im'd you?
LucasHorowitz: well Jenne first
LucasHorowitz: I left a message for taylor
LucasHorowitz: he imed me when he got back
Kdadams76: well i thought we had gotten all that taken care of and its done
LucasHorowitz: fi you say we're cool we're cool
LucasHorowitz: I know I freaked out
LucasHorowitz: and i apologize
Kdadams76: no apologies needed...its a game
Kdadams76: its a game of paranoia
Kdadams76: and it just comes with the territory
LucasHorowitz: I've been in that posistion before....but never in ten minutes before a tc ya know?
Kdadams76: i understand
LucasHorowitz: seriously, if you still have any doubts again just bug me ok? you and Taylor are my pact and I will take all the time you need if you ever have any concerns again
Kdadams76: ok....and i have come to you so you know i will when i have doubts
Kdadams76: i hope you'll remember that when things get "stirred" up
LucasHorowitz: thats why I laid low all weekend!
Kdadams76: me too
Kdadams76: plus i was tired of the game...lol
LucasHorowitz: thanks for bearing with me
LucasHorowitz: I really do appreciate you (and taylor)
Kdadams76: it's not a problem...we just need to stay a team
LucasHorowitz: agreed!!!!
Kdadams76: ok then, you sir, have a great night
LucasHorowitz: you too!